and also one of the most liberal members of the u.s. senate. we've lost a moderate, gained somebody on the left. >> i want to see cokie and ron weigh in here. >> i want to say joe donnelly, the exception to the rule, but elizabeth warren, and scott brown. voters increasingly are voting for one side or the other to be in control. and the individual legislator's ability to separate themselves from that is diminishing. >> and as ron referenced donnelly, he is the democrat we are now projecting to have won the senate seat in indiana, and that's key. because indiana, of course, has gone for governor romney. the republican richard mourdock defeated long-term republican senator richard lugar in the primary. in these polls today, voters came out and said they would have voted for richard lugar in the senate today if he were on the ballot. but since they was defeated by mourdock, they voted for donnelly. >> when lugar ran six years ago, he ran with 81% of the vote. >> mourdock is a man who talked about rape in a way that made women uncomfortable. >>> ok